LT11 - next turn
Mon, 03/03/2008 - 05:12 — maho
Tonight, at 01:27 (or a bit later) players below will be removed/replaced with new candidates, if won't connect and press turn done button.
[06:12:32] Turn-blocking game play: waiting on Gekko to finish turn...
[06:12:32] Turn-blocking game play: waiting on haken to finish turn...
[06:12:32] Turn-blocking game play: waiting on wolvic to finish turn...
[06:12:32] Turn-blocking game play: waiting on edrim to finish turn...
[06:12:32] Turn-blocking game play: waiting on tag8tag to finish turn...
[06:12:32] Turn-blocking game play: waiting on totyvalle to finish turn...
Comments
01:27 in what time zone...?
01:27 in what time zone...?
Maho - don't you sleep? You
Maho - don't you sleep? You are posting at 5 in the morning!
actually it was 6 at the
actually it was 6 at the morning :).
Hmm, GMT I think :)
Hmm, GMT I think :)
So MaHo does sleep. OK if
So MaHo does sleep.
OK if the forum says you posted at 05:12 and you say you posted at 06:12 then the forum is set to GMT (London) and you live in GMT+1 (NL).
So Yes it is GMT, and Yes MaHo does sleep.
Thanks for detailed
Thanks for detailed analysis. I wasn't sure if I sleep or not :).
I can`t connect to the game.
I can`t connect to the game. What Host and Port I heve to use to play? Is the same as in LT10?
pagema.net port 5556
pagema.net port 5556
hummm... may be a stupid
hummm... may be a stupid question, but I don't see anyone else but me has pressed "turn done".
Am I on the right server ?
You see the same as me. It
You see the same as me. It is not what is normally is displayed , but maybe it will fix itself :-)
Do you see any connected
Do you see any connected players?
Good news: I replace Gekko
Good news:
I replace Gekko and Wolvic with Jajcus and BlackWolfSantos.
Bad news:
Next turn is the same turn as first turn :). I hit ctrl-c before I saved :(
And Good news is also that
And Good news is also that we resumed normal, ~24h game.
and bad news is i made a
and bad news is i made a wooping mistake after the restart, and now have a shrinking capital. I guess it isnt my day, better luck in lt12
wtf what happned??? ... now
wtf what happned??? ... now I have no city and units at startposs ... no city built as I had ... did all "lost" this one turn?
I wrote few commnents
I wrote few commnents ago:
Bad news:
Next turn is the same turn as first turn :). I hit ctrl-c before I saved :(
great ... specialy for ppl
great ... specialy for ppl who calculated with timeout as was supposed to be ... you could at least do 2 day for the first turn, when there is such a change ... why do we wait 5 days for the first of the firsts turn then? :-/
Even if you haven't noticed
Even if you haven't noticed that info, you calculated it wrong anyways.
If you connected now as your second time connection to game, you would miss second turn even if no restart happend.
As always, to easily detect early idlers. Nothing more.
I calculate correctly. You
I calculate correctly. You said you will set timeout 24h last night ... so 24 hours for those you replaced to play their first turn ... so now should be second turn ... but when you restarted, I lost my first turn couse didnt and couldnt expect you will do it. Thats why I havent been here yesterday.
It's a pity that the start
It's a pity that the start of the game is a bit messy. So let's take a decision now: one last restart to fix all problems once and for all (missed turns, KDE's mistake as well if that's relevant), or play on and leave everything as it is? Problem with a restart is that there's no savegame for turn 1, so that's probably a lot of work (I don't know, Maho can confirm it).
=== 0h Marduk, thou art chiefest among the great gods! To destroy and to create; speak thou the word, and thy command shall be fulfilled. ===
probably the simplest
probably the simplest possibillity is total restart:) new map, new start pos, but i don`t know if everyone want it:)
the simpliest. I'm against
the simpliest.
I'm against restarting, but if majority wants it, or noone is against, I can restart.
But it would help me a lot if someone prepare me createscript, which contents is:
/create "playername1"
/create "playername2"
....
/start
/take "playername1" "playername1"
/ai "playername1"
/take "playername2" "playername2"
/ai "playername2"
...
it's the most annoying part of starting server, and I'd like to avoid copying it out from screen to textfile (yep, I had no time to do some sql script which would do it)
#!/bin/sh DBNAME=freeciv DBUS
#!/bin/shDBNAME=freeciv
DBUSER=root
DBPASS=
DBSTMT='SELECT name FROM auth' #FIXME
DBPREARGS="$DBNAME -u $DBUSER"
if [ -n "$DBPASS" ]; then
DBPREARGS="$DBPREARGS -p $DBPASS"
fi
tmpfile=`mktemp`
mysql $DBPREARGS -e "$DBSTMT" --skip-column-names -B > $tmpfile
rv=$?
if [ $rv -ne 0 ]; then
echo 'my mysql command is teh fail ;('
rm -f $tmpfile
exit 1
fi
awk '{print "/create", $1}' $tmpfile
echo '/set autotoggle 0'
echo '/start'
sed -e 's!.*!/take "\0" "\0"\n/ai "\0"!' $tmpfile
rm -f $tmpfile
exit 0
Don't you wish the code tag respected spacing now?
You forgot that auth
You forgot that auth dabatase is drupal db, which is postgres anyways :).
And you forgot that we have more users in table than users in game.
So could you modify script above to create commands based on users table, but taking into account only users in 'lt11' role? :)
And what is /autotoggle for ?
You forgot that auth
I had no way of knowing this. And since I have never used drupal or postgres, it is a change that you will have to be able to do.
Hence the FIXME, telling you to change the statement to match your table layout and to add where-clause conditions.
I cannot verify if it works if I guess at the postgres commands, you should read the man pages, --help, and tutorials on the web to find the correct way to change it.
Sorry, it was supposed to be the autotoggle setting (I have since edited the post). Anyway, I assumed it was some weirdness due to the LT server being based on plain civserver that as I recall liked to variously and automatically toggle ai mode when it was most annoying to do so. If the statement has no effect, then just remove it.
http://kde.homelinux.net:81/p
http://kde.homelinux.net:81/pu...
You're wrong. Let's
You're wrong.
Let's calculate what will be situation if I didn't mistake and haven't restart it from beginning.
2008-02-28 01:27 - I have started server.
2008-02-04 01:27 - 5 days after, I advanced it to next turn, so we have turn #2
2008-02-05 01:27 - 1 day after turn #2, we have turn #3.
So if you logged in today near 9:00, you missed turn #2 anyways.
Ok, so question is if we
Ok, so question is if we restart or not? Who is against restarting (except me)?
I'm not against restarting
I'm not against restarting as long as I keep the same map and position.
It's impossible. Restart
It's impossible. Restart means full restart this time, so new map and new position.
So, fed with new data, are you against or not?
I am against a full restart.
I am against a full restart. The cases put forth by pablo and kde are not sufficient to warrant starting anew for everyone, especially as it seems to me to be a case of user mistakes rather than something genuinely unfair.
I don't understand Pablo's
I don't understand Pablo's issue - I can't base my decision on that. If he made a mistake, I'm against a restart. Based on KDE's mistake, I'm against a restart.
It was not my mistake. I
It was not my mistake. I just folowed what maho said. If he didnt restart and ONLY let the newcommers to have extra 24 hours for first turn (without restarting it), I had my first turn done. I DINT miss turn 2 (actualy T1), but first (T0) which I played, but my moves were deleted couse of mahos restart.
So maho, stop telling me I did mistake of missing something. I only followed what you said, if you didnt restart, I had my first turn done and now could play my second turn. but, I found my units on second turn same position as the first one before I moved.
If the players involved
If the players involved (those who missed a turn, not those who made a mistake) really want a restart then I don't oppose it. But if we do it, we should do it as soon as possible so we don't loose more time.
=== 0h Marduk, thou art chiefest among the great gods! To destroy and to create; speak thou the word, and thy command shall be fulfilled. ===
I would like to ask for it.
I would like to ask for it. Couse I lost first turn which I played already. And it wasnt my fault.
Well alright, so it seems
Well alright, so it seems that, at least in pablo's case, Maho's "accidental" restart is more to blame then his own actions. But since it is only 1 turn and only one player that is affected, and pablo could have not missed the turn had he checked in more frequently, rather than voting for a restart, I will abstain on the issue. ;)
Just to clear up any doubts:
Just to clear up any doubts: there wont be a restart. The problem is solved, Maho offered to swap the location of Pablo, and Pablo accepted. So the game continues as it is now: no restart, no new map. I'm glad we solved it in a way satisfactory for all.
=== 0h Marduk, thou art chiefest among the great gods! To destroy and to create; speak thou the word, and thy command shall be fulfilled. ===
pls restart, i promise I
pls restart, i promise I wont screw it up.
If it's a user mistake, the
If it's a user mistake, the game should not be restarted.
Maho would it not be better
Maho would it not be better to have savegames for the start of every turn? Seems a lot of the above drama could have been avoided were that the case.
But I had it .... it was
But I had it .... it was first turn, and I had initial savegame of first turn, which means initial game savegame :)
I'd like to clarify a point
I'd like to clarify a point on which I didn't find an answer : is LT11 a team game or not ? If it is, what is the number of players in each team and how are the teams made ?
I mean, if I have to play peacefully with someone, it would be better to know it before sending hostile units... ;-)
Pytoux: it's not a team
Pytoux: it's not a team game. The vote for teams didn't make it. In a team game you're automatically allied with your team members, so you'd notice it from the start. You're free to attack anyone you want ;)
=== 0h Marduk, thou art chiefest among the great gods! To destroy and to create; speak thou the word, and thy command shall be fulfilled. ===
Thanks, Marduk, to attack or
Thanks, Marduk, to attack or not was indeed the question... ;)