LTXIII - Captains
Sun, 06/15/2008 - 16:03 — janq
Choose 6 players to be captains in LTXIII. These players will pick up from others and will create teams in this game.
Voting duration: 1 week
Marduk
76% (13 votes)
pipo
59% (10 votes)
Durandal
59% (10 votes)
turbo
47% (8 votes)
mrsynical
41% (7 votes)
elrik
41% (7 votes)
vonzgred
35% (6 votes)
trlv
35% (6 votes)
Citral
24% (4 votes)
janq
24% (4 votes)
Jajcus
18% (3 votes)
bluemoth
12% (2 votes)
maho
6% (1 vote)
makak
6% (1 vote)
OkBtO
6% (1 vote)
Kernow
6% (1 vote)
Crandel
6% (1 vote)
LordVan
6% (1 vote)
Kevapo
6% (1 vote)
presencia
0% (0 votes)
skeeto
0% (0 votes)
totyvalle
0% (0 votes)
kevin551
0% (0 votes)
woj11
0% (0 votes)
canuck101
0% (0 votes)
Mr.Brown
0% (0 votes)
bkoltai9
0% (0 votes)
det0r
0% (0 votes)
fish
0% (0 votes)
glob stain
0% (0 votes)
Total voters: 17
Comments
please don't choose 'maho'.
please don't choose 'maho'. I don't want to be captain (and I won't be) :)
Sorry I did. We don't have
Sorry I did. We don't have enough of good players in LTXIII :(
6 teams is too much. It will be impossible to create 6 fair teams.
So your vote will be wasted.
So your vote will be wasted.
Trust me, I won't be captain :). I will just ignore that result and take another one.
It would help greatly if
It would help greatly if people who have interest in becoming a captain let themselves known!
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Ok, I feel I should announce
Ok, I feel I should announce it - Elrik is totally offline, he can't even connect to announce it himself ( not only not having internet, but he does not even have a phone :D ). So voting for his captaincy might be not a good idea - well, just please have in mind that if he will not be able to play and will be chosen captain, 7th player in this ranking will become one - just remember about it :)
Offline Elrik
If he is totally offline - then how will he play?
How long will he be offline?
i will:) I can be a captain
i will:) I can be a captain only if offline diplomacy will work. As for now i`m at work from ~7:30 to ~16-17 so i don`t have much time. I should have connection at home soon.
re: offline elrik(I can be captain)
Hmm, something stinks here.
Vonzgred said that you have no even connection to phone, to say nothing about internet. Now you personally proves that you have internet connection.....
What's up?
I`m a work, i don`t have a
I`m a work, i don`t have a connection at home. What about phone, of curse i have it but using polish number at germany is rather expensive:)
I tried to be brief - I
I tried to be brief - I meant he has no 24/7 access to net, while I was writing I did not even know he has access in workplace ( he contacted me day or two after I wrote it ). I mentioned phone, cause it is customary to believe, that in civilised place if someone wants to connect to internet he can do it by cellphone - as Elrik explained, he does not yet own German one, with old Polish it would be kind of stupid :D due to pricing ( and I am not even sure if roaming covers for gprs too ).
Maho, do not look for the problem where there is none - I was not sure when Elrik manages to visit this page, so I tried to be kind to all that were sure about his presence in LTXIII ( while I was not ). Gosh, one just tries to be nice and someone suspicious appears to say that something is not right :)
re: offline elrik(I can be captain)
It was kind of joke ;)
Proposal for Team Selection
Maybe this should be a different thread (but too bad!).
I propose this method of picking teams. Captains are ranked according to the votes they get (we assume those with higher votes are better captains, but it doesn't have to be exact). Captain #6 picks first, then Captain #5, until Captain #1 then picks the 6th and 7th player. Captain #5 then picks the 8th player and so on. I believe will (in theory) produce the most even teams).
In summary the pick order should be:
Captain #1 - 6, 7, 18, 19
Captain #2 - 5, 8, 17, 20
Captain #3 - 4, 9, 16, 21
Captain #4 - 3, 10, 15, 22
Captain #5 - 2, 11, 14, 23
Captain #6 - 1, 12, 13 , 24
re: proposal for team selection
sounds ok. Assuming that captain #6 is that weakest one (that one with less votes).
I agree. Moreover, instead
I agree. Moreover, instead of picking up, each captain should send an order list of players according to his priority - the whole process will be done automatically then.
This is a good idea but a
This is a good idea but a captain may want to choose their players depending on who the other teams have and who they already have. Some players work together better than others. I guess it's up to the captains to decide how they would like to choose.
Yes, but such a process may
Yes, but such a process may be never ending. Before a picking up a captain should ask whole his team like this: "hi guys, what do you think about xyz, may I pick up?" and after a day he will got a response from xyz1 "no, please pick up xyz2"etc... And we need to make 24 choices at all... Should it take 24 days, or even more?
Lets start picking the teams:
Things to do first:
- Are the top 6 happy to be captains? Default answer is yes.
- Elrik do you have internet? Are you in or out as a player?
- List of players needs to be reinstated! http://www.longturn.org/ltXIII
- if any doesn't want/cannot play LTXIII please announce withdrawal now, rather than later....
I am definately in:) as for
I am definately in:) as for now i have only a connection at work, but from 5th, or 7th i`ll be online at home too(5th is Saturday and i`m not sure if there will any admin at work to add my IP to the server)
For me everything depends on
For me everything depends on when the game starts. During July I just don't know whether I'll have access to a pc with Freeciv (not sure if you can install that in an internet cafe or public pc).
In past games we sometimes did a 'summer break' for longturn, putting the games on hold till people get back from vacation. If more people would be unable to play in July (and August?) we could consider this option.
=== 0h Marduk, thou art chiefest among the great gods! To destroy and to create; speak thou the word, and thy command shall be fulfilled. ===
Sumer Vacation
I too will be going on summer vacation soon, from the 18th July.
If the game starts beforehand I will be happy to start myself and have someone take my turns while I'm away. This makes less sense if I am away for the start.
Given the problems we are having choosing the teams, (team captains absent) I suggest we set a start date for LTXIII for after the holidays. Maho seems to suggest that the game won't be ready for a few weeks anyway, so why not formalise this.
A vote on this makes more sense to me than voting on changing LTXIII to a non-team game. One of the big reasons for choosing a team game and diplomacy for teams only was to stop loopholes like teleporting.
Another idea is Bluemoth's suggestion. Start LTXIV as an immediate game with those ready to play and delay LTXIII until we are all ready.
game start/formalize/after holidays
Because not. Game start day will come, just like a thief in the night. Those who are not ready, will play in next game.
All I can promise, is that idlers during holidays won't be treated as idlers :)
Still In
I will play LTXIII as captain or anything else but I would also prefer to play later after vacations. I am on modem only and to top that, I have bad phone connection. I could share my password because I will not play any other LT during LTXIII.
That said, I did not try 2.1.5 yet but I tried 2.1.4 and did not find anything interesting from an LT perspective. I prefer the blinking units under 2.0.9, at least we can see the terrain with one look. The menus have change a bit but not for the better IMO. The AI is a little smarter but that is of no use to LT. There is almost no informations for trade (is there something important about trade in 2.1 that I (we) should be aware of?)
Overall, I do not think that LTXIII will be fun, except for the the new team combinations. I think it is bad that we experiment both together,
(ie: 2.1 and team combinations).
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A prince never lacks legitimate reasons to break his promise. -- Niccolo Machiavelli